Monday 3 June 2013

Vaccination - Surveillance over Debate

With vaccination being the topic of the moment, what with the Swansea measles and the vote in New South Wales to make it mandatory, and then of course the mass vaccine programme out in Africa. It is interesting to see why the big push.

So much so that we have a surveillance of the vaccines conversations so that the fears can be picked up and dealt with....what an odd way to go about addressing the situation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/p018r00d The first part of this broadcast relates to that.

I have to say that the fact that this method of detection of talk of vaccinations  is being pushed by the very person who is so vehemently behind the vaccination programme in Africa, and encouraging the parents in NSW, Australia to vote for mandatory vaccines is rather sinister.
Mr Bill Gates - it doesn't seem right!
You could apply this method of counter comment to any illness - cancer and chemo, that is another hot topic!

Hardly debate, much more like propaganda style. 1984 and Communist China style surveillance on what gets discussed on the Internet.

I think that the reasons that parents worry about vaccinations, is probably due to the fact that they contain neuro-toxins, the fact that to save money, they are given in combined forms and of course, can they really be considered clinically trialled as it is unethical to test drugs on children, so this is rather scientific guess work then?

It is also unethical to trial drugs on pregnant women, but the push to give 'mums to be' the whooping cough vaccine is worrying and we don't know what the consequences are of that in the long term.  But of course they are another vulnerable group that can be fear driven into procedures that they really know little of .....informed consent????

Can it really be right to give a 5:1 jab and then a 3:1 jab to a young developing immune system. Given in a way that actually by-passes the way the bodies own natural immune system works.

Isn't it time that this subject gets debated properly. After all if both sides are sure of their evidence, then lets hear it debated so parents get an informed choice, not a media lead one, with a leaning to what ever those that pull the media strings wish to portray.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7kbWfsygG4   Recent plea from Dr Andrew Wakefield.

Please watch the above clip as well, as Dr Wakefield calls for that very debate to be had.

Lets look at the studies on the health of vaccinated children compared to the un-vaccinated, after all according to the government/media there are lots of them now due to Dr Wakefield. So why doesn't someone do that study?

Are vaccines effective?....Well do we really know they are? - you can't prove a negative. If you had a  vaccine, and you didn't get the illness, then all you can say is that you didn't get the illness, you might not of got it anyway, so you can't say it was the vaccine.
Equally if you get the illness and didn't have the vaccine, all you can say is that you got the illness, because as I said, you could get the shot and it could be the vaccine didn't work for you or the strain was different or mutated as can happen.

What you do know, is that getting the vaccine means you get more going into your body than just a form of the virus!

Well at the time of the autism concern, there were lots of parents looking for the single vaccines, so they weren't deterred from vaccination, they just wanted to have them singularly, so there is credence in what Dr Wakefield says, the government should look to itself in the low take up rate
( if this is the case), as it is they who opted for the 3:1 MMR and withdrew the choice from parents.

It is easy with the passage of time to try and rewrite history, but those of us with children at the time remember it very well.

It would be very interesting to see how many of the children in Swansea had the the first MMR or  measles jab, that have gone on to contract measles now.

Pushing vaccines is very prevalent in the schools at the moment. A little boy of a client was told by his teacher that measles is a deadly disease and they should get vaccinated for it...well that is a bit much and wrong to scare children in the hope that they put emotional pressure on parents.  As if being a parent isn't hard enough.

So to address the fears, lets have the actual debate - surely we should be open to the truth, what ever that is and we should be open to looking for it.

It is ridiculous to have Mr Gates declaring people who have concerns over medical procedures for their children, as child killers....absolutely absurd!  What a shame that is not a misquote but on the record.  Thousands are dead because they didn't take the vaccine?....I think we really ought to see the true statistics that back up that statement because such emotive language does not lead to the truth.....view it here  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFlhBYwLbf8

It was said that Dr Wakefield has a financial interest in law suits......who has the financial interest in vaccines?

I guess the surveillance system will pick up this blog!

What an increasingly sinister world we live in.













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